UNSPECIFIED – MAY 16: In this screengrab, Former President Barack Obama speaks during Graduate Together: America Honors the High School Class of 2020 on May 16, 2020. (Photo by Getty Images/Getty Images for EIF & XQ)

Former President Barack Obama

Former President Obama slammed former President Trump in a new podcast for not being considered a “serious guy” in New York City — where Trump spent most of his time before the White House, growing his fame and businesses.

Obama was asked on the “SmartLess” podcast by co-host Jason Bateman whether he was surprised how quickly the “protection and passion for democracy was diluted” in recent years. Obama responded by noting the trend began during former President Clinton’s time in the White House before accelerating during his presidency.

“I have been surprised that there haven’t been guardrails inside the Republican Party. Trump didn’t surprise me,” he said, before taking aim at Trump.

“I mean, he comes from New York. There’s nobody in New York who does business with him or lend him money. He’s not considered a serious guy here,” Obama added.

Obama appeared alongside Clinton and President Biden in the newest episode of the “SmartLess” podcast. The trio of presidents recorded the podcast March 28 in New York City.